It50 or dreadnought.

justshoemarkjustshoemark
in Amplifiers
Hi all hope you are all keeping well. 
May I ask what the difference between the two power amps are and which people prefer? 
Many thanks

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  • uglymusicuglymusic
    I am, thanks. How about you?

    On the amps, I haven't a clue. Sorry.
  • AntiCrapAntiCrap
    Which Dreadnought, oh they are Blue copies are not Blue and there is few, one even on e-crap bay
  • AntiCrapAntiCrap
    There is also two types of IT50 get photo of the lid off.
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    How do I put a photo on 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Dose this help 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    edited June 2021
    Sorry
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Dose the link work ok? 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    I took the link down Colin and sent you an email. Hope you get them. 
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    The link works.
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    You might be able to put them up on here better then me I'm no good with photos and links. 
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    I thought, shit, what happened to the link?
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Did it show all my other photos through
  • AntiCrapAntiCrap
    It did, this is one of only two prototype IT50 that where stolen unfortunately they both had hum loops and buzzed.
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Oh I see so not worth buying then Colin. 
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    justshoemark said:
    Did it show all my other photos through
    Just two images.
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    It is from Tom Fletcher Nottingham analogue. 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    edited June 2021
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/FB23TP8So4ZbzoKE7

    [Docfoster Edit... I couldn't get the images to show from their Google link. I put the photos in Imgur and have linked to them from there.]







  • uglymusicuglymusic
    Four pics.
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Yes four pics 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Think I can do it now lol
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Thing is I am using two musical fidelity p180 and the moment and they do sound good don't no if it's worth a change. 
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    I can't advise you. I don't know the MF p180s or the C14 amps.

    How much do you like Colin's ideas about how an amp should sound?
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    I don’t know these amps.
    I’ve owned a couple of more recent MuFi integrated amps. The X-A2 (late 90s?) and the A3.2 (early 2000s?) Liked both.
    I’ve owned 4 of Colin’s amps. Original Claymore (reconditioned), ID25, Toca Seca 20 and the One4 SECA.
    Loved all of them. Especially the last 2. Colin’s class A amps are amazing.
    I said goodbye to those MuFi amps a long time ago, and certainly haven’t done direct comparisons between them and any of Colin’s amps, so i can’t feel certain, but don’t think I’d swap any for the MuFi amps I’ve owned, good though they were. The A3.2 v Claymore would be the only close call. But since the Claymore was reconditioned, I think it’d win.

    I don’t think the IT50 or the dreadnaught are class A. If one is, go for that one.
    I think the dreadnaught is more powerful...?
    I think the IT50 is the more recent model...?
    I don’t know if the amps are similar designs.
    Colin says this particular IT50 is faulty and was stolen. I see you’ve discounted it. Have any other options turned up?

    What’s drawing you to these 2?
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Well I just like collecting and using Colin's things. I have a early pre amp itx and an fmt. 
    And I have a classics Oberon. 
    So was working for a power amp to go with the pre. 
    But I will keep looking. 
    A Tova would be good just don't see the bigger ones that often. 
    Many thanks
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    You don't really need lots of watts with a Class A. My 30 watt monoblocks happily drive the fairly insensitive Royds in a 27' room.

    And the electricity bill is another argument against lots of Class A watts. 
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    justshoemark said:
    Well I just like collecting and using Colin's things. I have a early pre amp itx and an fmt. 
    And I have a classics Oberon. 
    So was working for a power amp to go with the pre. 
    But I will keep looking. 
    A Tova would be good just don't see the bigger ones that often. 
    I know. Those TOCAs are secretive fellows. I only just about caught sight of this one hiding under my stairs the other day before it scurried off behind the skirting board.



    Understood about the collectors approach.
    And in that case, it probably matters less how good each is in absolute terms! :-)
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    BTW, I couldn't get the images to show from their Google link. I put the photos in Imgur and have linked to them from there.
    They should now be showing in your post above.
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    uglymusic said:
    You don't really need lots of watts with a Class A. My 30 watt monoblocks happily drive the fairly insensitive Royds in a 27' room.

    And the electricity bill is another argument against lots of Class A watts. 
    Good point well made.
    My TOCA is 20 and my One4 is I think 28. Absolutely plenty to achieve realistic listening levels. Never even close to capacity.
    At party levels, there is some slight break up, but I'm too old to party.
  • quickiequickie
    I think Mark like his Watts   :)

    Unless you've got really insensitive speakers, or something that's a pig to drive, then 20w should be plenty.

    The Toca certainly played louder then the power rating would suggest.

    Them Wonfor Watts are special ones  :p
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    quickie said:
    I think Mark like his Watts   :)

    Unless you've got really insensitive speakers, or something that's a pig to drive, then 20w should be plenty.

    The Toca certainly played louder then the power rating would suggest.

    Them Wonfor Watts are special ones  :p
    Yes:
    Think: wattage of LED lightbulb.
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    Docfoster said:
    quickie said:
    I think Mark like his Watts   :)

    Unless you've got really insensitive speakers, or something that's a pig to drive, then 20w should be plenty.

    The Toca certainly played louder then the power rating would suggest.

    Them Wonfor Watts are special ones  :p
    Yes:
    Think: wattage of LED lightbulb.

    Digital lies?
  • DocfosterDocfoster
    uglymusic said:
    Docfoster said:
    quickie said:
    I think Mark like his Watts   :)

    Unless you've got really insensitive speakers, or something that's a pig to drive, then 20w should be plenty.

    The Toca certainly played louder then the power rating would suggest.

    Them Wonfor Watts are special ones  :p
    Yes:
    Think: wattage of LED lightbulb.

    Digital lies?
    :-D

    brilliant!
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Thanks for the feedback. The speakers I have are linn isobarik. So are not the easiest to drive. I have had one of Colin's one4 amps and I found it not anoth to drive them. I think that was a 20w class A.

  • DocfosterDocfoster
    justshoemark said:
    Thanks for the feedback. The speakers I have are linn isobarik. So are not the easiest to drive. I have had one of Colin's one4 amps and I found it not anoth to drive them. I think that was a 20w class A.

    Yes.
    I would think so.👍
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/877pKpvv92m6ruU56
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Some photos of Oberon and Inca tech pre I have internal photos of pre. 
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    justshoemark said:
    Thanks for the feedback. The speakers I have are linn isobarik. So are not the easiest to drive. I have had one of Colin's one4 amps and I found it not anoth to drive them. I think that was a 20w class A.


    OK. Now you're talking difficult to drive (so they tell me).
  • uglymusicuglymusic
    Docfoster said:
    uglymusic said:
    Docfoster said:
    quickie said:
    I think Mark like his Watts   :)

    Unless you've got really insensitive speakers, or something that's a pig to drive, then 20w should be plenty.

    The Toca certainly played louder then the power rating would suggest.

    Them Wonfor Watts are special ones  :p
    Yes:
    Think: wattage of LED lightbulb.

    Digital lies?
    :-D

    brilliant!

    Thankinyew! :)
  • quickiequickie
    Been a long time since I've seen an IT1X.

    Used to sell them along with Claymores and the IT50/100 power amps. 
  • justshoemarkjustshoemark
    Yes it's a very good pre I must say I really enjoy listening to it. 

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