I'm not sure if it's in that clip, or another one I've seen, but the piccolo snare has a severely dented head. It was suggested on YT that PNL was such a bad player that he'd caused the damage through his playing. I think we can ignore that :-) So, I guess it's to achieve a certain sort of sound.
I think it's fairer to say he's an experimental player, hitting cymbols with other cymbols is not considered good practice either as it will also lead to damage that will detrimentally change the sound of them. I couldn't say I would listen to what he was doing for entertainment but I would for inspiration. It was more like his own toying with sounds in private, what happens if I do this or that, can I make it all hang together, can I go against this fixed idea and make it something new...etc.
Maybe he's the Lars Ulrich of Jazz? (Infamous as one of the hardest hitting drummers around that wears out heads much faster than others, sometimes using 2 snare heads for one concert)
I'm not sure if it's in that clip, or another one I've seen, but the piccolo snare has a severely dented head. It was suggested on YT that PNL was such a bad player that he'd caused the damage through his playing. I think we can ignore that :-) So, I guess it's to achieve a certain sort of sound.
I think it's fairer to say he's an experimental player, hitting cymbols with other cymbols is not considered good practice either as it will also lead to damage that will detrimentally change the sound of them. I couldn't say I would listen to what he was doing for entertainment but I would for inspiration. It was more like his own toying with sounds in private, what happens if I do this or that, can I make it all hang together, can I go against this fixed idea and make it something new...etc.
Maybe he's the Lars Ulrich of Jazz? (Infamous as one of the hardest hitting drummers around that wears out heads much faster than others, sometimes using 2 snare heads for one concert)
Two sides of drum solos is only for drummers, I think.
He does play in some, shall we say, challenging environments with a few of the most notoriously loud sax players around - Peter Brotzmann, Mats Gustafsson etc., so I guess he has little use for brushes in those gigs :-)
Look for an album called Garage by The Thing. If it's not on any of the usual places, then most of it should be on Soundcloud.
They're rock fans as well as jazzers, and have played with rock bands.
I had guessed the rock angle, there are even familiar little morcels from rock greats, along with regular drops into 4 time. At first pass on Garage I thought what-the-@&;%$ was that. Maybe the wrong mood but on a later second pass enjoyed most of what on offer. I must admit to prefering the pieces with a familiar drive and form with the nutzoid screaming sax laid over the top. I think maybe a band best enjoyed live?
Look for an album called Garage by The Thing. If it's not on any of the usual places, then most of it should be on Soundcloud.
They're rock fans as well as jazzers, and have played with rock bands.
I had guessed the rock angle, there are even familiar little morcels from rock greats, along with regular drops into 4 time. At first pass on Garage I thought what-the-@&;%$ was that. Maybe the wrong mood but on a later second pass enjoyed most of what on offer. I must admit to prefering the pieces with a familiar drive and form with the nutzoid screaming sax laid over the top. I think maybe a band best enjoyed live?
They aren't the most mellifluous listen. I have to be in the mood, too.
Are the morsels on Garage? It's their garage rock album.
I missed out on seeing them with Neneh Cherry (sold out) and a second time on their own (cock-up over the date) in London, so I haven't yet had the pleasure(?).
They aren't the most mellifluous listen. I have to be in the mood, too.
Are the morsels on Garage? It's their garage rock album.
I missed out on seeing them with Neneh Cherry (sold out) and a second time on their own (cock-up over the date) in London, so I haven't yet had the pleasure(?).
Yuppity, on Garage and the live piece you linked to before. Every so often you get a oh-that's-so-n-so moment....
Not to keen on Neneh Cherry though, a few decent pop songs but she's what my family call a "chippy". i.e. Someone with a huge chip on their shoulder, either they belong to a past repressed segment of society or have had what they deem as raw a deal and think we should all have to know about it or owe them something for it. An extremely overrated singer/talent(sic) in my book.
I'm difficult to please as it is with female singers but she doesn't even get close!
They aren't the most mellifluous listen. I have to be in the mood, too.
Are the morsels on Garage? It's their garage rock album.
I missed out on seeing them with Neneh Cherry (sold out) and a second time on their own (cock-up over the date) in London, so I haven't yet had the pleasure(?).
Yuppity, on Garage and the live piece you linked to before. Every so often you get a oh-that's-so-n-so moment....
Not to keen on Neneh Cherry though, a few decent pop songs but she's what my family call a "chippy". i.e. Someone with a huge chip on their shoulder, either they belong to a past repressed segment of society or have had what they deem as raw a deal and think we should all have to know about it or owe them something for it. An extremely overrated singer/talent(sic) in my book.
I'm difficult to please as it is with female singers but she doesn't even get close!
I'll have to listen to the live piece again.
Trivia warning:
Neneh Cherry's connection to The Thing is that she is the daughter of trumpeter Don Cherry, and The Thing were originally formed to play Don Cherry tunes and are named after a Don Cherry track.
This almost ended up in fave recommendations, as Paul Motian's is one of my favourite bodies of work in jazz. But this isn't my fave recommendation from my favourite drummer of all time, so it's here instead.
Don't get to many gigs. But I was at this one (or at least one of the 3 over that weekend).
I was chuffed that Shane Meadows chose this "Fools Gold" performance as the one from that set to put in his film about The Stone Roses and their fans. At the gig, it was one of those "Shit. this is good" moments.
Don't get to many gigs. But I was at this one (or at least one of the 3 over that weekend).
I was chuffed that Shane Meadows chose this "Fools Gold" performance as the one from that set to put in his film about The Stone Roses and their fans. At the gig, it was one of those "Shit. this is good" moments.
I thought I'd repurpose this beautiful piece written in response to the loss of some 20 children in Altlanta, Georgia, to the events in Manchester last night.
Joe Henderson - tenor sax, flute, alto flute
Alice Coltrane - piano, harp, Tambura, harmonium
Charlie Haden - bass
Leon "Ndugu" Chancler - drums (1, 4)
Kenneth Nash - narrator (4), flute (3), congas, North African Sakara Drum, bells, gong, percussion
Baba Duru Oshun - percussion, Tabla
Michael White - violin
I managed to grab a new CD last week; it arrived yesterday. And I'm just having my first playing. So far, I really like Joe Henderson as an avant garde hippy. I think this is going to be played a lot over the coming weeks.
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Maybe he's the Lars Ulrich of Jazz? (Infamous as one of the hardest hitting drummers around that wears out heads much faster than others, sometimes using 2 snare heads for one concert)
At first pass on Garage I thought what-the-@&;%$ was that. Maybe the wrong mood but on a later second pass enjoyed most of what on offer. I must admit to prefering the pieces with a familiar drive and form with the nutzoid screaming sax laid over the top.
I think maybe a band best enjoyed live?
Not to keen on Neneh Cherry though, a few decent pop songs but she's what my family call a "chippy". i.e. Someone with a huge chip on their shoulder, either they belong to a past repressed segment of society or have had what they deem as raw a deal and think we should all have to know about it or owe them something for it. An extremely overrated singer/talent(sic) in my book.
I'm difficult to please as it is with female singers but she doesn't even get close!
(Apologies for the cloying display of the lyrics. It was the only video of the studio version that I could find on YT)
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I recall their first was more successful and better reviewed but I prefered this, a little less rebelious but more musically accomplished.
Rubber Band is worth mentioning.